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make an impression on me–but I wanted to like both. ;-)
make an impression on me–but I wanted to like both. ;-)


Update: One item I forgot to mention is that if you have modules from either of these products on another handheld (older Palms, for instance), then you do not have to re-purchase them to use the modules on the iPhone. This could be a very compelling reason to go with either of these products. But I'm also guessing that if you have them, you probably already know that. However, if you do own multiple handhelds, probably OliveTree would be your best bet, as they probably support the broadest range of systems.
:''Update: One item I forgot to mention is that if you have modules from either of these products on another handheld (older Palms, for instance), then you do not have to re-purchase them to use the modules on the iPhone. This could be a very compelling reason to go with either of these products. But I'm also guessing that if you have them, you probably already know that. However, if you do own multiple handhelds, probably OliveTree would be your best bet, as they probably support the broadest range of systems.


=YouVersion's Bible=
=YouVersion's Bible=
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some of the modules, so if you need, you can do that, and treat it
some of the modules, so if you need, you can do that, and treat it
like an offline reader, but it is primarily intended to be connected.
like an offline reader, but it is primarily intended to be connected.
Summary: Two differentiations; reader contributions and powerful daily
Summary: Two differentiations: reader contributions and powerful daily
reading plans.
reading plans.


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Wow! It's awesome! But not cheap. Actually,
Wow! It's awesome! But not cheap. Actually,
it's not really any more expensive than the other software, but it's
it's not really any more expensive than the other software, but it's
the only one that has tempted me to actually unload lots of money on
the only one that has tempted me to actually pay for
it. ;-) It has a quirky, different interface–at least until you get
it. ;-) It has a quirky, different interface–at least until you get
used to it, but as you learn it, you learn its true capabilities. It
used to it, but as you learn it, you learn its true capabilities. It
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plan capabilities. I like that it offers check marks to show what
plan capabilities. I like that it offers check marks to show what
you've read. Unfortunately, just like with the YouVersion reader, you
you've read. Unfortunately, just like with the YouVersion reader, you
can't '''unmark''' a passage! What an oversight! duh... Any way, I like
can't '''unmark''' a passage! What an oversight! Anyway, I like
Mantis a whole bunch and bunches. ;-)
Mantis a whole bunch and bunches. ;-)


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consider what all you get for absolutely free–then it's hard to be
consider what all you get for absolutely free–then it's hard to be
uncharitable. ;-)
uncharitable. ;-)


:''Update: There have been at least two updates since the above was written, and there are two major comments to make. 1. The bugs have been squashed, so no more crashes, and 2. Logos is now clear that downloading modules is only for those who have purchased at least the base Logos 4 for the desktop. Since this costs hundreds of dollars, USD, it seems that Logos is preferring people to use the iPhone app as an adjunct to the desktop. Of course, one can use the software purely in online mode and be quite happy, but it's good to know exactly where they are on this.
:''Update: There have been at least two updates since the above was written, and there are two major comments to make. 1. The bugs have been squashed, so no more crashes, and 2. Logos is now clear that downloading modules is only for those who have purchased at least the base Logos 4 for the desktop. Since this costs hundreds of dollars, USD, it seems that Logos is preferring people to use the iPhone app as an adjunct to the desktop. Of course, one can use the software purely in online mode and be quite happy, but it's good to know exactly where they are on this.


Now, some of the good. There seems to be well over 50 different titles
Now, some of the good. There seems to be well over 50 different titles
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as well as several different books of various sorts. Most of these are
as well as several different books of various sorts. Most of these are
older, and the same as you would find with the Sword Project, but some
older, and the same as you would find with the Sword Project, but some
are unusual and interesting. Strong's Systematic Theology is there, as
are unusual and interesting. Strong's ''Systematic Theology'' is there, as
is In His Steps, and the Imitation of Christ. Eclectic and useful.
is ''In His Steps'', and ''The Imitation of Christ''. Eclectic and useful.


What I find most useful, however, is the Cambridge Paragraph Bible of
What I find most useful, however, is the Cambridge Paragraph Bible of
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=Credits=
=Credits=
Contributed on [[Mac Ministry List]]  
Contributed on [[Mac Ministry List]]  
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by Jon Glass
on Jan 2, 2010  
on Jan 2, 2010  
 
with subsequent updates by himself




[[Category:Bible Software|IPhone]]
[[Category:Bible Software|IPhone]]

Revision as of 09:15, 10 March 2010


An early review by a prolific software tester

January 2010

Now that I've had a few days to tinker with all of them, here's my summary of the current Bible programs for iPhone.

Laridian PocketBible and OliveTree BibleReader

(free; I don't see any difference between the free version and the paid, other than the modules you get)

These are good Bible readers, as far as that goes. Both offer a wide range of modules, but that's about it. As far as indepth study, they are a bit lacking. Oddly, it seems that the only program that allows split-screen viewing on the iPhone is OliveTree! Even more oddly, I don't find I miss it... go figure. Another unique feature: it allows backing up and synchronizing notes with Evernote. In any case, for the moment, they are still on my iPhone, but I don't know for how long. Summary: Neither offers anything much over the others, and the integration between modules that simplify more in-depth study are lacking in comparison to some others. To be honest, they just didn't make an impression on me–but I wanted to like both. ;-)

Update: One item I forgot to mention is that if you have modules from either of these products on another handheld (older Palms, for instance), then you do not have to re-purchase them to use the modules on the iPhone. This could be a very compelling reason to go with either of these products. But I'm also guessing that if you have them, you probably already know that. However, if you do own multiple handhelds, probably OliveTree would be your best bet, as they probably support the broadest range of systems.

YouVersion's Bible

This is also a simple reader, but with a twist. Instead of tons of extra modules–commentaries, dictionaries, etc. –it is a reader with online contributions by the readers themselves. You can contribute to the project if you wish–just not from the iPhone app that I could find. It also has a very powerful and flexible reading plan. If you are looking at something primarily for daily reading, then this may be the one for you. It allows for downloading at least some of the modules, so if you need, you can do that, and treat it like an offline reader, but it is primarily intended to be connected. Summary: Two differentiations: reader contributions and powerful daily reading plans.

PocketSword

First a warning. I'm partial to the whole Sword Project, so beware my bias. ;-) That said, this program is still very much in its infancy. You can simply read Bible and commentary modules. There are yet no capabilities for dictionaries or even the most rudimentary searching (though that is coming, and should be in beta by the middle of this month). It is open source and freeware, and the developer seems to want to make this the best program he can. So, I have high hopes for this one, especially as so far, it is the only Bible Study software that allows me to use both of the main-use Polish Bibles, and not the tragically-archaic Biblia Gdanska. (Laridian is the only other one that offers a Polish Bible, and this is it) If it results in anything approaching the capabilities of BibleTime, I may make it my primary software on my iPhone–but it has a long way to go yet–I'm hoping to help with beta-testing it. ;-) Summary: Immature, but potential(?) A capable Bible and commentary reader, with both older and ESV Bibles available.

Update: with version 1.1, released early 2010, PocketSword added Bible dictionaries and Search, as well as the ability to select and copy text from Bible modules. As of March 1, the beta for 1.2 includes displaying Strongs numbers, as well as definitions, including morphology.

Mantis Reader Bible Study

Wow! It's awesome! But not cheap. Actually, it's not really any more expensive than the other software, but it's the only one that has tempted me to actually pay for it. ;-) It has a quirky, different interface–at least until you get used to it, but as you learn it, you learn its true capabilities. It is a true Bible Study application, with integration between modules that make all the apps I've mentioned so far pale in comparison, and they ought to hang their heads in shame. ;-) You can view commentaries and cross references in-line, add notes that are backed up on their servers, and which can be read or downloaded to your desktop from there. Nice touch (but I think I prefer OliveTree's Evernote integration over Mantis's–but to be honest, I doubt I would use either much) An illustration of Mantis' method. Tap on a verse number, and a little toolbar opens. You can mark the verse, add a note, email the verse, or analyze it. Selecting this option opens another window on top of your Bible window. It has four options below: Compare, Commentary, Define and My Notes. Compare simply compares your various Bible versions. You can hide or show whichever ones you want. Since I only have two installed, it is simple, and I can compare my Polish and English. Commentaries does something similar, but opens all your commentaries underneath the verse you are analyzing. Again, you can hide or show. But what's really cool is that if a particular commentary doesn't say anything on the verse under study, it offers the previous and next entries, which you can reveal and read inline. They are slightly greyed, so you know they are a sub-topic, of sorts. Define works a bit differently. It starts off the same as the Commentary and Compare views, but until you tap on a word, nothing shows under dictionary entries. But tap on a word and if any dictionary has this word as an entry, its entry shows up. I find this feature to be quite cool. ;-) Even better, You don't need to open the Analyze window to get some of this. When you click on the verse number to show this little menu, it also reveals the names of your various translations and commentaries. Tapping on a name opens up the entry for that item that is connected to that verse. Again, if a commentary doesn't have an entry for that verse, it offers the previous and next entry to be opened. So you can do inline comparisons and commentaries, right in the text. Now, granted, on a small screen like the iPhone's, you might find this overload, but for things like the TSK or parallel texts, it's useful. ;-) In any case, the approach that Mantis takes encourages exploration and further reading. It is quite immersive, and once I start, I find it difficult to stop reading and digging further. It reminds me of Accordance in that manner. ;-) But Mantis doesn't stop there. It also has one of the more flexible daily reading plan capabilities. I like that it offers check marks to show what you've read. Unfortunately, just like with the YouVersion reader, you can't unmark a passage! What an oversight! Anyway, I like Mantis a whole bunch and bunches. ;-)

Logos

Regular readers know how much I don't like Logos, and their CEO, with whom, btw, I've had some rather strong exchanges on his blog some years ago. All that said, I fear to say it, but Logos has shown the rest how to do it. Or at least how powerful and integrated an iPhone app can be. It is fluid, it is flexible and it is capable and powerful!

What does Logos bring to the table? First of all, its shortcomings. 1. Its commercial nature. Its "home" screen is really nothing more than advertising for their desktop app. But since it's free software, I suppose that's unavoidable. Secondly, its reading plan, as far as I can tell, is rather lamish. There is no flexibility, and no options, and only one plan. useless. So the entire home screen is a throwaway. Secondly, it is primarily an on-line reader (like YouVersion's). This means you need to have some kind of data connection, whether it be wifi or 3G. I suppose you could try Edge or GPRS, but that would be brutal! Version 1.2 supposedly added the option to download some modules for offline reading, but I have been completely unable to get that to work, and reading the forums, I'm not alone. Maybe it's a location thing (or a jailbreak thing)–I don't know, but it seems to not work for most people–even those who have paid for Logos 4, and who should, by all rights, have that right, due to the rather extortionist fee that Logos has charged them. Also, it seems to be somewhat buggy–more buggy than other programs. I haven't noticed it much, but it has disappeared on me once or twice while using it. I don't remember any of the others doing this. But when you consider what all you get for absolutely free–then it's hard to be uncharitable. ;-)

Update: There have been at least two updates since the above was written, and there are two major comments to make. 1. The bugs have been squashed, so no more crashes, and 2. Logos is now clear that downloading modules is only for those who have purchased at least the base Logos 4 for the desktop. Since this costs hundreds of dollars, USD, it seems that Logos is preferring people to use the iPhone app as an adjunct to the desktop. Of course, one can use the software purely in online mode and be quite happy, but it's good to know exactly where they are on this.

Now, some of the good. There seems to be well over 50 different titles available for free. This includes some of the most modern translations, including the ESV, NKJV, HCSB, GNT, NCV, NLT. It also contains a whole BUNCH of Greek New Testaments, although I couldn't find one version of the Hebrew OT. It also has several different KJV Bibles (and more on that in a moment). There are a few commentaries, as well as several different books of various sorts. Most of these are older, and the same as you would find with the Sword Project, but some are unusual and interesting. Strong's Systematic Theology is there, as is In His Steps, and The Imitation of Christ. Eclectic and useful.

What I find most useful, however, is the Cambridge Paragraph Bible of the Authorized English Version, done by Scrivener back in 1873. This one is completely linked to the Greek Strong's both dictionary and morphology. You access this, as well as other dictionaries by pressing and holding on a word. This pops up a menu whereby you can either search the word in the Bible, or do a word study on the word. In the case of most Bibles, it does an English word study, including showing all the various Greek and Hebrew words that are translated as the English Word. But in the case of this particular Bible, it brings up the Greek word, and shows you the various ways it was translated in the KJV. At first, the screen that pops up is boring. You see a circle each for the Hebrew and Greek (in the case of an English word) or for the Hebrew or Greek root. But tapping either on the label to the right of this circle (the legend), or on one of the colors on the circle, does a wonderful thing. It opens up a list of all the places in the KJV where this particular variation shows up. Lastly, below this, it shows you example uses in an odd-looking context table. All of this is done, apparently, on Logos' servers, and downloaded to your iPhone (or iPod Touch) via the network. Yes, this means that you don't have access to it while you are offline, but if you have a decent connection, it is very slick and powerful.

I almost neglected to mention that in the text, footnotes are live-tappable. Tap on one, and a list of verses, or the footnote pops up in a tooltip-like popup. Tap on a verse reference, and it opens up in the tooltip popup. This is even nicer than Mantis, but maybe a bit more "touchy" in practice. I frequently have a hard time tapping in the right place. But it is attractive and less distracting and intrusive, as text doesn't have to move out of the way so you can read the footnote. The search is also quite flexible, and extensive. But most programs have nice searching facilities. What separates Logos is its integration and the ease of it. I also cannot overlook its appearance. It is immediately professional-looking and attractive. This is something some of the others are lacking, but when I say attractive, I mean in a productive sense. It's not just eye-candy, but functional attractiveness–very Mac-like. I must say, they've done an iPhone program right... there is a good example in their iPhone app to be emulated. That's about the most positive I can say. (and that's too much for my taste! But I must be honest)

Summary

I think we may expect a product from Accordance in the near or not-so-near future.

Logos is an impressive program–though not perfect. I have to summarize all programs by saying this. Absolutely none of these programs will meet my needs all by themselves. I find myself constantly referring to the last three (PocketSword, Mantis and Logos) constantly when I'm studying without my Mac. I must also confess, while I did not want to jailbreak my iPhone, I'm now glad I have. With Backgrounder and ProSwitcher going, I can bounce back and forth between the three freely, so it is much less of a hassle than it would be, had I not had this capability. In fact, I installed these two hacks just so I could multi-task these three programs.

Having said that, I'm holding out high hopes that PocketSword and Accordance will be able to step up to the plate, and give us a complete solution. I know it's not easy to go from working on a modern system with all the resources in the world like the Mac, to a tiny 320x480 pixel screen, with grossly underpowered processor and limited memory resources. In fact, it is amazing that any of these programs can do what they do. I have high hopes for the iPhone, though, and am looking forward to big things. Even if we aren't there yet–I think we can get very close. I do hope that Accordance will be a part of it. ;-)

Sorry for this long, rambling and rather disjointed, and hurried review. But I hope it helps somebody.

Credits

Contributed on Mac Ministry List by Jon Glass on Jan 2, 2010 with subsequent updates by himself