User talk:Vdanen: Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 21:55, 1 January 2011

here’s an interesting wiki with some nice plugins we may want to look at later: http://creationwiki.org/Special:Version

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Hey, nice work on the home page! - N Reid 08:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. =) We need a "getting started guide" or a "dummies guide to our wiki" or something that tells people how to add new content, etc; see the thread on mac-min. It also needs to be linked to from the front page; I've added a link to the editor's guide for now. --Vdanen 16:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

What links here

This feature does not work to identify redlinks to non-existent pages. For instance, CMUG:Notes for editors has been moved; if you click on this red link and then "What links here", the list at Special:WhatLinksHere/CMUG:Notes for editors includes this page, but not others e.g. the redirect at Notes_for_editors.

Before I updated CATUG wiki:Notes for editors, it had two links for CMUG:Formatting guide, but Special:WhatLinksHere/CMUG:Formatting guide did not show it.

Search me why it does show this user talk page! - N Reid 01:39, 29 September 2010 (MDT)

I can only imagine this is due to the redirect on Notes for editors being an internal thing, and not part of the wiki text? I'm not sure. Is it a big deal though? I can try and get in the db and do some cleaning, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. --Vdanen 08:28, 29 September 2010 (MDT)

Thanks for suggesting the Special page listing redirects; it's a new one on me. I'll use that in my toolbox on this wiki; I agree that it will be sufficient to discover redirects to non-existent pages.

As for the issue of other articles not showing up in WhatLinksHere for redlinks, I don't know if I just wasn't looking properly, because it seems to be working now!

Special:WhatLinksHere/CMUG:Formatting_guide does now show a test link that I added on another page.

It's odd that the switch Show/Hide Redirects does nothing, i.e. redirects still don't show, but as stated above I can live with that. - N Reid 10:33, 29 September 2010 (MDT)

Indenting level on talk pages

Hi Vincent, I clicked the + button to start this section, so the heading level is automated. It's defaulting in at == == rather than = =, which is inconsistent with the format that we agreed for article pages. Can you change this, please? - N Reid (talk) 17:50, 29 December 2010 (MST)

What "+" button? I'm not seeing it? Different skin perhaps. I think it does this as a sub-heading since it thinks = is for the "main" page. I don't know if this is hardcoded or not though (I've never noticed this being configurable in my few years with mediawiki). :--Vdanen 19:26, 29 December 2010 (MST)

That's interesting, the button now shows as "Add topic". I guess that's part of the new skin. I didn't consciously change the skin; I looked at my prefs and Vector(default) was already selected. - N Reid (talk) 11:14, 31 December 2010 (MST)

Oh nice, I wasn't sure if it would change automatically for people or not. That is good to know. --Vdanen 11:28, 31 December 2010 (MST)

Article titles

Under the new skin, the article title appears at the top of the text, the same as in Wikipedia. (Before, it was way off up to the left.) I don't think the {{title}} at the top of each article is needed any more. Do you agree? If so, I'll remove it from the formatting guide. Shall I also go through all the pages and remove the title, or can you change Template:Title so that it becomes null? - N Reid (talk) 11:18, 31 December 2010 (MST)

No, I don't think it can be made null. If you don't want to do it, I can do it later today. --Vdanen 11:28, 31 December 2010 (MST)

I made it null. Seems to have worked! - N Reid (talk) 12:15, 1 January 2011 (MST)

Very cool. Thanks!! --Vdanen 14:55, 1 January 2011 (MST)

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 {{title|Vincent's Talk Page}}
 here’s an interesting wiki with some nice plugins we may want to look at later: http://creationwiki.org/Special:Version
-== Display of page name ==
+== Update ==
+Hey, nice work on the home page! - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 08:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
+:Thanks.  =)  We need a "getting started guide" or a "dummies guide to our wiki" or something that tells people how to add new content, etc; see the thread on mac-min.  It also needs to be linked to from the front page; I've added a link to the editor's guide for now. --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 16:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
+== What links here ==
-Hi Vince,
+This feature does not work to identify redlinks to non-existent pages. For instance,
+[[CMUG:Notes for editors]] has been moved; if you click on this red link and then "What links here", the list at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/CMUG:Notes for editors]] includes this page, but not others e.g. the redirect at [[Notes_for_editors]].
-Can you change the skin so that the page name displays lower down, like it does on Wikipedia? I note that you re-typed the page title at the top of the [[Mac Bible Software Update November 2005|Bible software pages]] between single = marks. This looks fine but allows for potential confusion if the page is moved, and seems unnecessary to me. - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 10:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
+Before I updated [[CATUG wiki:Notes for editors]], it had two links for [[CMUG:Formatting guide]], but [[Special:WhatLinksHere/CMUG:Formatting guide]] did not show it.
-This is doable, but this prevents us from being as free as we want.  I.e. we could use the name, for example, "Adding_Ram" as the page name but use "Adding Ram to an OS X Computer" as the page title by using the single = marks.  I've always done it like this because it adds more flexibility, and otherwise if you want to just rename/rephrase the title of a page, you don't have to rename the page itself.  In light of that, WDYT? --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 14:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
+Search me why it '''does''' show this user talk page! - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 01:39, 29 September 2010 (MDT)
-:Fair enough. It looks fine on pages with only the main heading or a couple more. But once the TOC appears, can you stop the main title being in the TOC, and the remaining headings being indented? e.g. [http://wiki.annvix.ws/index.php?title=Adding_RAM&oldid=86 this permalink]. Or should the title be at the same level as the other headings like [http://wiki.annvix.ws/index.php?title=Adding_RAM&oldid=90 this]? - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 18:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
+:I can only imagine this is due to the redirect on Notes for editors being an internal thing, and not part of the wiki text?  I'm not sure.  Is it a big deal though?  I can try and get in the db and do some cleaning, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 08:28, 29 September 2010 (MDT)
-::We can do what I do on my other wiki: http://annvix.org/index.php?title=Documentation&action=edit where the title uses a template (i.e. { { title|Documentation } }) --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 18:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
+::Thanks for suggesting the Special page listing redirects; it's a new one on me.  I'll use that in my toolbox on this wiki; I agree that it will be sufficient to discover redirects to non-existent pages.
-:::Fine, that's neat! I've added a br/ tag a the end of [[template:title]] to force a line break in case editors don't leave an empty line below it, like my user page. - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 19:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
+::As for the issue of other articles not showing up in WhatLinksHere for redlinks, I don't know if I just wasn't looking properly, because it seems to be working now!
+::[[Special:WhatLinksHere/CMUG:Formatting_guide]] does now show a test link that I added on another page.
+::It's odd that the switch Show/Hide Redirects does nothing, i.e. redirects still don't show, but as stated above I can live with that. - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 10:33, 29 September 2010 (MDT)
-::::Doesn't look like it.  You'll need to leave a blank line or it will think it is 'wiki-style'; i.e. for separate paragraphs, you need to have a blank line between or it will think they are the same paragraph
+== Indenting level on talk pages ==
-kinda
+Hi Vincent, I clicked the + button to start this section, so the heading level is automated. It's defaulting in at <nowiki>== ==</nowiki> rather than <nowiki>= =</nowiki>, which is inconsistent with the format that we agreed for article pages. Can you change this, please? - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] ([[User talk:N Reid|talk]]) 17:50, 29 December 2010 (MST)
-like
-this
-:That's exactly what I'm getting at. It worked yesterday using the Title template with the br at the end (before you removed it), and this test version works on my talk page: [http://wiki.annvix.ws/index.php?title=User:N_Reid&oldid=121 N Reid (permalink)] 18:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
-::Weird... it didn't seem like it was working.  I put in a double-br now, so it'll work... might look off if people put in a blank vs don't (an extra space) but at least it works now.  It didn't look like it had worked with just a single br, but maybe I'm losing my mind =)
+:What "+" button?  I'm not seeing it?  Different skin perhaps.  I think it does this as a sub-heading since it thinks <nowiki>=</nowiki> is for the "main" page.  I don't know if this is hardcoded or not though (I've never noticed this being configurable in my few years with mediawiki). :--[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 19:26, 29 December 2010 (MST)
-== Partial deletion request ==
+::That's interesting, the button now shows as "Add topic". I guess that's part of the new skin. I didn't consciously change the skin; I looked at my prefs and Vector(default) was already selected. - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] ([[User talk:N Reid|talk]]) 11:14, 31 December 2010 (MST)
-I should not have added the original version of the remote control article without the original writer's consent. If I have admin privileges here, I'm not aware how to use them. I don't know how easy it is to delete page history, but please could you remove the history from that one?
+:::Oh nice, I wasn't sure if it would change automatically for people or not.  That is good to know. --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 11:28, 31 December 2010 (MST)
-Alternatively, if you simply delete the whole article, I'll re-add the current version as I've taken a copy elsewhere. - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] 20:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
+== Article titles ==
-::Unfortunately, I don't think this will fully work.  I deleted it and restored the last revision, so there are 7 edits that are removed.  I don't know if it's because I'm an admin, or if any logged in user can see it, but I can see the old revisions when asked if I want to restore them.  As an anonymous visitor in a different browser, I can't see the deleted history.  There is this note, however:
+Under the new skin, the article title appears at the top of the text, the same as in Wikipedia. (Before, it was way off up to the left.) I don't think the <nowiki>{{title}}</nowiki> at the top of each article is needed any more. Do you agree? If so, I'll remove it from the formatting guide.  Shall I also go through all the pages and remove the title, or can you change [[Template:Title]] so that it becomes null? - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] ([[User talk:N Reid|talk]]) 11:18, 31 December 2010 (MST)
-:::If you restore the page, all revisions will be restored to the history. If a new page with the same name has been created since the deletion, the restored revisions will appear in the prior history.
+:No, I don't think it can be made null.  If you don't want to do it, I can do it later today.  --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 11:28, 31 December 2010 (MST)
-::That makes me think at we should then not use names at all when we post things unless the author specifically requests attribution... it's easier to add later than it is to remove.  Something for your policy page perhaps?
+::I made it null.  Seems to have worked! - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]] ([[User talk:N Reid|talk]]) 12:15, 1 January 2011 (MST)
-Right, I've emphasised the need for consent in [[CMUG: Notes for editors]]. Should really get on with some proper content now!  - [[User:N Reid|N Reid]]
+:::Very cool.  Thanks!! --[[User:Vdanen|Vdanen]] 14:55, 1 January 2011 (MST)