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The '''Mac Ministry List''' was created to help Mac-using missionaries who had little access to technical support. Over the years, it has grown into CMUG’s online community forum. Join the conversation by subscribing.
Christian Apple Technology User Group's '''mailing list''' has always been our central channel of communication and fellowship.
As our original name “Christian Mac User Group” implies, our goal has always been to support Christians using Macs, but with a particular concentration on those using Macs for ministry; hence the name '''“Mac Ministry”''' for the mailing list.


At this moment there are currently two Mac Ministry mailing lists, but these are in the process of being merged. The main list is still the recommended list to join.
=History =
The CMUG mailing list was created to help Mac-using missionaries who had little access to technical support. Over the years, it has grown into CMUG's (now CATUG’s) online community forum.  


=Mac Ministry main list =
Around January 2011 there were two Mac Ministry mailing lists, but these were merged back together on February 20.
The list server software was upgraded to a new program, known as Mailman, on February 19, 2011 with the aim of creating a more reliable and flexible list to serve this community's membership in the years to come. Please read "[[CATUG wiki:Transition Announcements#Letter from the CMUG Board|Letter from the CMUG Board]]" for more information.


The '''original and main list''' server software was upgraded to a new program, known as Mailman, on February 19, 2011 with the aim of creating a more reliable and flexible list to serve this community's membership in the years to come. Please read "[[CATUG wiki:Transition Announcements#Letter from the CMUG Board|Letter from the CMUG Board]]" for more information.
Join the conversation by subscribing.


=How to subscribe and post=
==Addresses==
To subscribe and receive individual e-mails, [mailto:mac-min-request@catug.org?subject=subscribe click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.
To subscribe and receive individual e-mails, [mailto:mac-min-request@catug.org?subject=subscribe click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.


To unsubscribe from the list, [mailto:mac-min-request@catug.org?subject=unsubscribe click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.
To unsubscribe from the list, [mailto:mac-min-request@catug.org?subject=unsubscribe click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.


Alternatively, or to change your options e.g. to a single e-mail digest of messages, use the new web page for subscriptions:
Alternatively, or to change your options e.g. to a single daily e-mail digest of messages, use this web page for subscriptions:
:http://catug.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-min_catug.org
:http://catug.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-min_catug.org


As a member, to send a message to the main list, email [mailto:mac-ministry@lists.macministry.org mac-ministry@lists.macministry.org] as before. Members who prefer a shorter address may use [mailto:mac-min@catug.org mac-min@catug.org].  
To change your email address, you'll have to subscribe with the new email address and unsubscribe the old one.  


==Filtering your emails==
If you want to suspend email messages while you go on holiday, click the button at the end of the page "Unsubscribe or edit options"; on the next page, enter your email address and password (there is an option to receive a password reminder, if needed). Then on the next page, scroll down to "Your Mac-Min Subscription Options", and change the first option "Mail delivery" from "Enabled" to "Disabled".
To filter your emails into a separate folder, a simple rule for subject lines containing "[Mac-Min]" will continue to work as it has in the past. However, this would mix off-list replies sent to you into the list traffic.  


A more specific way to filter Mac-Min messages is to filter by Mailman's ''"list-id"'' header. All messages sent through Mac-Min will have a list-id header that '''contains''' ''"mac-min_catug.org.catug.org"'' (without quotes).
As a member, to send a message to the main list, email [mailto:mac-min@catug.org mac-min@catug.org]. The old posting address [mailto:mac-ministry@list.macministry.org mac-ministry@list.macministry.org] also still works.


In Apple Mail, if List-id is not in the list of fields that you can use in Rules, then select Edit Header List. <br/>
==Posting guidelines==
[[File:Mail Rules Edit Header List.png|Mail Rules: Where to find "Edit Header List"]]
Please see the separate page on [[posting guidelines]].


=Filtering your emails=
To filter your emails into a separate folder, a simple rule for subject lines containing <code>[Mac-Min]</code> will continue to work as it has in the past. However, this would mix off-list replies sent to you into the list traffic.


This brings up the Message Headers window; click on the + tool at the lower left, and add List-id. <br/>
A more specific way to filter Mac-Min messages is to filter by Mailman's <code>list-id </code> header. All messages sent through Mac-Min will have a list-id header that '''contains''' <code> mac-min_catug.org.catug.org</code>
[[File:Mail message headers.png|Message Headers window]]


To learn how to use this in Apple Mail, see the article [[Making the most of Apple Mail#Filtering your emails|Making the most of Apple Mail]].


After this, you will be able to use List-id in the same way that you could already filter on From, To, Subject etc.
Gmail supports filtering on List-id, see [http://journal.boblycat.org/node/2752 this blog] (no connection with us). Enter the following in Gmail's <code> Has the words </code> field:
<br/>
:<code>listid: mac-min_catug.org.catug.org</code>
[[File:Mail rule for Mac-Min.png]]


=Mac Ministry via mac-min.org=
=Archives=
There are no online email archives of the List. This is intentional, and preferred by a significant number of CATUG members for reasons of privacy. Instead, this Wiki was set up partly to serve as a repository of some of the best advice which may be of lasting or wider value.


This is the '''new list'''. It was set up in 2010 and people were invited to subscribe; see [[CATUG wiki: Transition Announcements]]. However, the leadership has not endorsed it; although it is up and running and some discussions have been held there, it will shortly be subsumed back into the main list.
=Admin lists=
The CATUG Board and Ops Board have separate lists for administrative matters, to save stuff of a boring or technical nature from being sent to all members.


This list has its own [http://lists.mac-min.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-ministry_lists.mac-min.org Mailman management page].  From here you can subscribe to the list, unsubscribe from the list, and change certain options such as whether to receive messages in regular mode or digest mode.
=Prayer list=
 
[[Drew Janssen]], longstanding CATUG member, started an online prayer list in 2007 called the '''Prov1522 List''' (after {{bibleref|Proverbs|15:22|KJV}}). It is not limited to prayer alone; members might also share wisdom, hence the verse.  
As a member, to send a message to the new list while it remains, email [mailto:mac-ministry@lists.mac-min.org mac-ministry@lists.mac-min.org]
 
=Archives=
There are no online email archives of the old or new lists. This is intentional, and preferred by a significant number of CMUG members. Instead, this Wiki was set up partly to serve as a repository of some of the best advice which may be of lasting or wider value.


=Special purpose lists=
Drew is the list moderator, and ensures that it is flame-free, private, non-preachy, and above all confidential. The list is hosted by another longstanding CATUG member, Jon Gardner.
;Editors List
There is a mailing list for web editors and those interested in contributing to the web presence of CMUG (blog, this wiki).  You can subscribe from the [http://lists.mac-min.org/mailman/listinfo/editors_lists.mac-min.org mailman listinfo page].  This is a public list with a private archive.  


;Admin lists
CATUG members are still also welcome to post prayer requests on the Mac-Min list (see [[Posting guidelines]]). However, Prov1522 is a side-channel list focused on sharing requests and praying for each other.  The requests, and the answers, will never be posted on any website or in any blog, and Drew hopes to keep the membership limited to those who take it seriously and will honor each other's confidentiality.
As of January 2011, the interim CMUG Operations group have a private list for discussion of governance and future changes; see [[Current status]] for the membership of this group. The CMUG Board have a separate list.


The tech team who set up mac-min.org already had a separate list for administrative matters, to save stuff of a boring or technical nature from being sent to all members.
For more info about this list or to subscribe, see http://lists.kairosnet.com/mailman/listinfo/prov1522


=See also=
=See also=
* [[Posting guidelines]]


*  [[CATUG wiki:Transition Announcements]] - the announcement of the new list, and subsequent statements




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Latest revision as of 22:19, 4 June 2012

Christian Apple Technology User Group's mailing list has always been our central channel of communication and fellowship. As our original name “Christian Mac User Group” implies, our goal has always been to support Christians using Macs, but with a particular concentration on those using Macs for ministry; hence the name “Mac Ministry” for the mailing list.

History

The CMUG mailing list was created to help Mac-using missionaries who had little access to technical support. Over the years, it has grown into CMUG's (now CATUG’s) online community forum.

Around January 2011 there were two Mac Ministry mailing lists, but these were merged back together on February 20. The list server software was upgraded to a new program, known as Mailman, on February 19, 2011 with the aim of creating a more reliable and flexible list to serve this community's membership in the years to come. Please read "Letter from the CMUG Board" for more information.

Join the conversation by subscribing.

How to subscribe and post

Addresses

To subscribe and receive individual e-mails, click this link and send the e-mail it creates.

To unsubscribe from the list, click this link and send the e-mail it creates.

Alternatively, or to change your options e.g. to a single daily e-mail digest of messages, use this web page for subscriptions:

http://catug.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-min_catug.org

To change your email address, you'll have to subscribe with the new email address and unsubscribe the old one.

If you want to suspend email messages while you go on holiday, click the button at the end of the page "Unsubscribe or edit options"; on the next page, enter your email address and password (there is an option to receive a password reminder, if needed). Then on the next page, scroll down to "Your Mac-Min Subscription Options", and change the first option "Mail delivery" from "Enabled" to "Disabled".

As a member, to send a message to the main list, email mac-min@catug.org. The old posting address mac-ministry@list.macministry.org also still works.

Posting guidelines

Please see the separate page on posting guidelines.

Filtering your emails

To filter your emails into a separate folder, a simple rule for subject lines containing [Mac-Min] will continue to work as it has in the past. However, this would mix off-list replies sent to you into the list traffic.

A more specific way to filter Mac-Min messages is to filter by Mailman's list-id header. All messages sent through Mac-Min will have a list-id header that contains mac-min_catug.org.catug.org

To learn how to use this in Apple Mail, see the article Making the most of Apple Mail.

Gmail supports filtering on List-id, see this blog (no connection with us). Enter the following in Gmail's Has the words field:

listid: mac-min_catug.org.catug.org

Archives

There are no online email archives of the List. This is intentional, and preferred by a significant number of CATUG members for reasons of privacy. Instead, this Wiki was set up partly to serve as a repository of some of the best advice which may be of lasting or wider value.

Admin lists

The CATUG Board and Ops Board have separate lists for administrative matters, to save stuff of a boring or technical nature from being sent to all members.

Prayer list

Drew Janssen, longstanding CATUG member, started an online prayer list in 2007 called the Prov1522 List (after  Proverbs 15:22). It is not limited to prayer alone; members might also share wisdom, hence the verse.

Drew is the list moderator, and ensures that it is flame-free, private, non-preachy, and above all confidential. The list is hosted by another longstanding CATUG member, Jon Gardner.

CATUG members are still also welcome to post prayer requests on the Mac-Min list (see Posting guidelines). However, Prov1522 is a side-channel list focused on sharing requests and praying for each other. The requests, and the answers, will never be posted on any website or in any blog, and Drew hopes to keep the membership limited to those who take it seriously and will honor each other's confidentiality.

For more info about this list or to subscribe, see http://lists.kairosnet.com/mailman/listinfo/prov1522

See also