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Christian Apple Technology User Group's '''mailing list''' has always been our central channel of communication and fellowship.
As our original name “Christian Mac User Group” implies, our goal has always been to support Christians using Macs, but with a particular concentration on those using Macs for ministry; hence the name '''“Mac Ministry”''' for the mailing list.


The Mac Ministry List was created to help Mac-using missionaries who had little access to technical support. Over the years, it has grown into CMUG’s online community forum. Join the conversation by subscribing.
=History =
The CMUG mailing list was created to help Mac-using missionaries who had little access to technical support. Over the years, it has grown into CMUG's (now CATUG’s) online community forum.  


At this moment there are currently '''two''' Mac Ministry mailing lists. As of December 29, 2010, the new list is the recommended list to join, and to write to with effect from January 8, 2011.  The transition announcement below envisaged that by January 10, 2011 members would cease to use the old list. However, this is currently being actively discussed on the old list.  
Around January 2011 there were two Mac Ministry mailing lists, but these were merged back together on February 20.  
The list server software was upgraded to a new program, known as Mailman, on February 19, 2011 with the aim of creating a more reliable and flexible list to serve this community's membership in the years to come. Please read "[[CATUG wiki:Transition Announcements#Letter from the CMUG Board|Letter from the CMUG Board]]" for more information.


=Mac Ministry via mac-min.org=
Join the conversation by subscribing.


This is the '''new list'''. To subscribe and receive individual emails or digests, visit the [http://lists.mac-min.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-ministry_lists.mac-min.org mailman management page].  From here you can subscribe to the list, unsubscribe from the list, and change certain options such as whether to receive messages in regular mode or digest mode.
=How to subscribe and post=


As mentioned at the foot of that page, there is also a separate list for administrative matters, to save stuff of a boring or technical nature from being sent to all members.  
==Addresses==
To subscribe and receive individual e-mails, [mailto:mac-min-request@catug.org?subject=subscribe click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.


=Mac Ministry via macministry.org (may shortly become defunct)=
To unsubscribe from the list, [mailto:mac-min-request@catug.org?subject=unsubscribe click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.


If all members join the new list, then from January 10, 2011 we expect that there will be no more messages on the old list. In that case, from that date members can safely unsubscribe from this list and use the new list exclusively. This will ensure that you receive all of the messages, and others will receive your messages in the right place.
Alternatively, or to change your options e.g. to a single daily e-mail digest of messages, use this web page for subscriptions:
:http://catug.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-min_catug.org


To unsubscribe from the old list, [mailto:Mac-Ministry-off@list.macministry.org?subject=Unsubscribe%20from%20Mac%20Ministry click this link] and send the e-mail it creates.
To change your email address, you'll have to subscribe with the new email address and unsubscribe the old one.  


=Archives=
If you want to suspend email messages while you go on holiday, click the button at the end of the page "Unsubscribe or edit options"; on the next page, enter your email address and password (there is an option to receive a password reminder, if needed). Then on the next page, scroll down to "Your Mac-Min Subscription Options", and change the first option "Mail delivery" from "Enabled" to "Disabled".
There are no online email archives of the old or new lists. This is intentional, and preferred by a significant number of CMUG members. Instead, this Wiki was set up partly to serve as a repository of some of the best advice which may be of lasting or wider value.


=Transition Announcement=
As a member, to send a message to the main list, email [mailto:mac-min@catug.org mac-min@catug.org]. The old posting address [mailto:mac-ministry@list.macministry.org mac-ministry@list.macministry.org] also still works.


The transition announcement in its entirety is as follows:
==Posting guidelines==
Please see the separate page on [[posting guidelines]].


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=Filtering your emails=
To filter your emails into a separate folder, a simple rule for subject lines containing <code>[Mac-Min]</code> will continue to work as it has in the past. However, this would mix off-list replies sent to you into the list traffic.


Dear Mac-Minners,
A more specific way to filter Mac-Min messages is to filter by Mailman's <code>list-id </code> header. All messages sent through Mac-Min will have a list-id header that '''contains''' <code> mac-min_catug.org.catug.org</code>


We hope you all had a Merry/Happy Christmas. The Mac-Min Admin team would like to announce a Christmas present to the entire Mac-Min community! We're delivering a shiny new email list… well, not quite in time for Christmas, but just in time to bring in the New Year.
To learn how to use this in Apple Mail, see the article [[Making the most of Apple Mail#Filtering your emails|Making the most of Apple Mail]].


As many of you are all too aware, the number of list software failures has increased over the past few months, meaning that more and more of you are missing out on important discussions. Compounding this problem, list maintenance has been chronically hobbled by Mac-Min's lack of admin access to the software (LetterRip).
Gmail supports filtering on List-id, see [http://journal.boblycat.org/node/2752 this blog] (no connection with us). Enter the following in Gmail's <code> Has the words </code> field:
:<code>listid: mac-min_catug.org.catug.org</code>


In order to ensure that the Mac-Min email community continues to operate smoothly, we have made an executive decision to move the mailing list to a more modern, more appropriate list software (Mailman).
=Archives=
 
There are no online email archives of the List. This is intentional, and preferred by a significant number of CATUG members for reasons of privacy. Instead, this Wiki was set up partly to serve as a repository of some of the best advice which may be of lasting or wider value.
Besides being more reliable, the new software will allow you to set a number of preferences about the messages you receive, such as whether you want to receive plain text or MIME emails, switch between individual and digest modes, suspend your list mail temporarily, and other options.
 
The new software will allow the admin team to fix technical issues and list emergencies when they occur. Because we will be able to solve these issues before they become a big problem, discussions will be less distracted by administrative issues and will stay more focused on the content that matters to you.
 
In order to move to the new software, we will need to switch servers. Here's the part that involves you: you will need to subscribe to receive messages from the new Mac-Min address.
 
What you need to do:
 
1) Subscribe by visiting http://lists.mac-min.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-ministry_lists.mac-min.org and filling out the fields under the heading "Subscribing to Mac-ministry". The process is simple and only takes about two minutes. You will also need to respond to a confirmation email.
 
2) Change your email filtering/spam rules, if necessary, to receive messages from [mailto:mac-ministry@lists.mac-min.org mac-ministry@lists.mac-min.org].


3) Beginning Saturday, January 8, send ALL your posts to the new list at [mailto:mac-ministry@lists.mac-min.org mac-ministry@lists.mac-min.org].
=Admin lists=
The CATUG Board and Ops Board have separate lists for administrative matters, to save stuff of a boring or technical nature from being sent to all members.


4) By January 10, all messages from the old list should have stopped. You can then safely unsubscribe from the old list. To do this, send a blank email from your subscribed address to [mailto:Mac-Ministry-off@list.macministry.org?subject=Unsubscribe%20from%20Mac%20Ministry mac-ministry-off@list.macministry.org] with the subject "Unsubscribe from Mac Ministry".
=Prayer list=
[[Drew Janssen]], longstanding CATUG member, started an online prayer list in 2007 called the '''Prov1522 List''' (after {{bibleref|Proverbs|15:22|KJV}}). It is not limited to prayer alone; members might also share wisdom, hence the verse.  


Please let us know ASAP if you have any difficulty subscribing or receiving messages from the new list. Contact the Admin team by sending an email to [mailto:admins@lists.mac-min.org admins@lists.mac-min.org].
Drew is the list moderator, and ensures that it is flame-free, private, non-preachy, and above all confidential. The list is hosted by another longstanding CATUG member, Jon Gardner.


Again, if you want to continue to be a part of Mac-Min, you MUST subscribe to the new list. We recommend that you subscribe before the New Year. To prevent missing any Mac-Min messages, subscribe by January 8. We understand that some are traveling this time of year, and if that's you, just subscribe as soon as you can get back online. For the sake of privacy, the new list (like the old) will NOT have an archive, but if there is a need, we may temporarily add pages for relevant parts of the first few days' digests for the sake of members who are not able to subscribe promptly to the new list. The Wiki at http://mac-min.org/ will still be used to capture info of lasting value.
CATUG members are still also welcome to post prayer requests on the Mac-Min list (see [[Posting guidelines]]). However, Prov1522 is a side-channel list focused on sharing requests and praying for each other. The requests, and the answers, will never be posted on any website or in any blog, and Drew hopes to keep the membership limited to those who take it seriously and will honor each other's confidentiality.


Please subscribe to the new list straight away, and be ready to move all discussions to the new list on January 8. This old list should continue to function past that date, but only as a signpost redirecting stragglers to our new address.
For more info about this list or to subscribe, see http://lists.kairosnet.com/mailman/listinfo/prov1522


We are excited about having a more reliable and user-friendly list, and we hope that Mac-Min will be amazingly helpful to all of us in 2011.
=See also=
* [[Posting guidelines]]


In Christ's Service,<br />
The Mac-Min Admin team


Brian Braunschweiger<br />
Vincent Danen<br />
Jon Gardner<br />
Rory Gillespie<br />
Aaron Hunyady<br />
Scotte Meredith<br />
Clive Read<br />
Neville Reid<br />
Faithe Thomas


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Latest revision as of 22:19, 4 June 2012

Christian Apple Technology User Group's mailing list has always been our central channel of communication and fellowship. As our original name “Christian Mac User Group” implies, our goal has always been to support Christians using Macs, but with a particular concentration on those using Macs for ministry; hence the name “Mac Ministry” for the mailing list.

History

The CMUG mailing list was created to help Mac-using missionaries who had little access to technical support. Over the years, it has grown into CMUG's (now CATUG’s) online community forum.

Around January 2011 there were two Mac Ministry mailing lists, but these were merged back together on February 20. The list server software was upgraded to a new program, known as Mailman, on February 19, 2011 with the aim of creating a more reliable and flexible list to serve this community's membership in the years to come. Please read "Letter from the CMUG Board" for more information.

Join the conversation by subscribing.

How to subscribe and post

Addresses

To subscribe and receive individual e-mails, click this link and send the e-mail it creates.

To unsubscribe from the list, click this link and send the e-mail it creates.

Alternatively, or to change your options e.g. to a single daily e-mail digest of messages, use this web page for subscriptions:

http://catug.org/mailman/listinfo/mac-min_catug.org

To change your email address, you'll have to subscribe with the new email address and unsubscribe the old one.

If you want to suspend email messages while you go on holiday, click the button at the end of the page "Unsubscribe or edit options"; on the next page, enter your email address and password (there is an option to receive a password reminder, if needed). Then on the next page, scroll down to "Your Mac-Min Subscription Options", and change the first option "Mail delivery" from "Enabled" to "Disabled".

As a member, to send a message to the main list, email mac-min@catug.org. The old posting address mac-ministry@list.macministry.org also still works.

Posting guidelines

Please see the separate page on posting guidelines.

Filtering your emails

To filter your emails into a separate folder, a simple rule for subject lines containing [Mac-Min] will continue to work as it has in the past. However, this would mix off-list replies sent to you into the list traffic.

A more specific way to filter Mac-Min messages is to filter by Mailman's list-id header. All messages sent through Mac-Min will have a list-id header that contains mac-min_catug.org.catug.org

To learn how to use this in Apple Mail, see the article Making the most of Apple Mail.

Gmail supports filtering on List-id, see this blog (no connection with us). Enter the following in Gmail's Has the words field:

listid: mac-min_catug.org.catug.org

Archives

There are no online email archives of the List. This is intentional, and preferred by a significant number of CATUG members for reasons of privacy. Instead, this Wiki was set up partly to serve as a repository of some of the best advice which may be of lasting or wider value.

Admin lists

The CATUG Board and Ops Board have separate lists for administrative matters, to save stuff of a boring or technical nature from being sent to all members.

Prayer list

Drew Janssen, longstanding CATUG member, started an online prayer list in 2007 called the Prov1522 List (after  Proverbs 15:22). It is not limited to prayer alone; members might also share wisdom, hence the verse.

Drew is the list moderator, and ensures that it is flame-free, private, non-preachy, and above all confidential. The list is hosted by another longstanding CATUG member, Jon Gardner.

CATUG members are still also welcome to post prayer requests on the Mac-Min list (see Posting guidelines). However, Prov1522 is a side-channel list focused on sharing requests and praying for each other. The requests, and the answers, will never be posted on any website or in any blog, and Drew hopes to keep the membership limited to those who take it seriously and will honor each other's confidentiality.

For more info about this list or to subscribe, see http://lists.kairosnet.com/mailman/listinfo/prov1522

See also